Features
This timetable is fully built from scratch using the late 2024 working time timetable for the region, with platform assignments from October 30th. Some very minor alterations have been made due to gameplay considerations, or route limitations.
The current feature set includes:
•Full LNR Class 350 Timetable. (Including St Albans Abbey Shuttles and full ECS services). 4, 8 and 12 car where appropriate.
•Full Avanti West Coast Class 390 Timetable. (Including all ECS services, and first class facing the correct way).
•Full London Overground Lioness Line Class 710 Timetable. (Including both the 710/2 and the 710/3 as well as all ECS services).
•Full London Underground Bakerloo Line Timetable, including Rusty Raill and Seasonal Sleet trains.
•Full Southern Class 377 timetable including the /2 and /7 subclasses.
•Full Avanti West Coast Class 805 Timetable. (Including ECS services).
•Inclusion of the New Measurement train on several services.
•Updated Station Directory, including all off map destinations as well as some bug fixes.
AI only services:
• All Class 390 and 805 services that do not stop on the map have been put in as AI only.
•LU services from Elephant & Castle to Queen's Park and vice versa are AI only.
Current known limitations:
•AI Class 390s are unable to run at their Tilt Speeds (125mph) and are instead running at the default linespeed of 110mph. The results in the AI being slightly delayed in some cases. This is a core issue.
•Seems to be a potential issue with the Auto Announcer mod on the LU Stonebridge Park Reversals that can cause a crash to desktop.
•Class 350s that uncouple will not automatically shut their gangway doors, this doesn't affect many services, but isn't a timetable issue, it's an issue with the train.
Future Plans
The current plan for the next version is to include the following:
• Class 805 undertaking the current Voyager services (PRIORITY).
• FREIGHT, lots and lots of freight, including Aggregates and RHTT.
•Rail Tours of various types when all the core services are in.
•Class 87 undertaking the Caledonian Sleeper Services upon release of Overshap.
Change Log
v1.1.2 Bugfix patch to properly add in layer requirements for the GBRf freight layers, will no longer crash if RHTT DLC is not owned.
v1.1.1 Bugfix patch to properly fix the broken pantographs. Inclusion of some WIP freight (intermodals primarily), this isn't finished currently so the class 87s are missing liveries. GBRF and FL 66s will be availible later this evening. Guardmode is also now working properly since the last official update.
v1.1 Inclusion of full London Underground timetable (including Sleet Trains), with this the Lioness line is complete.
v1.01 Bugfix to prevent Platform 13 390 services derailing, as well as Description/Title fixes.
v1 Initial Release with 746 playable services.
Credits
Enhancement Pack creation and Timetable Testing:
Bescot
Jetwash
Robs2872
SprattyHeath
Belle
Laika
Timetable Testing and additional help:
Benjwri
Cash
Crazy_Coffee
Mikey
Vieon (Huge thank you for all the Delay Analysis you helped with)
Requirements
Commuter action abounds along the bustling 4-track West Coast Main Line in Train Sim World 5. Dash through the complex layout of London Euston aboard the Class 350 and embark across the Northwest corner of the Capital to Milton Keynes.
West Coast Main Line: London Euston - Milton Keynes Enhancement Pack
Patch for Train Sim World · by Belle, Bescot, Charlie, Fawx, JetWash, Laika, ROB S and SprattyHeath · 31 Dec 2024Tags: avanti-west-coast real-timetable timetable wcml wcml-south west-coast west-coast-main-line west-coast-mainline west-coast-mainline-south working-timetable
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Comments
Thanks for your hard work on this.
Amazing work! Looking forward to the future plans also.
Great work, thank you
Great mod, just wondering how and where i can get the 805 and flying banana layers from?
those layers are included read the WCMLS Enhancement Pack & Time Table pdf
ye but they dont work
great job
but did notice that there where 2 services without an description on the 1972 tubecar section
Thanks for the heads up, fixed in the next version.
Just want to make sure I’m reading this correctly, does this include a 5 car 710 /3 or is the 4 car 710/2 doing the 710/3 services?
The 710/3 is 5 car.
I think the 805 diesel sound need some work (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssdiUozEdZE) video for reference. Also I would expect the diesel to be a bit more torque-y. Thank you for your work,
This isn't a sound mod
Make sure you also have this mod as well (actually ALL of his sound mods that correspond to DLC you own): https://www.trainsimcommunity.com/mods/c3-train-sim-world/c20-sounds/i4347-class-801-sound-mod
Absolutely fantastic timetable, thanks for making the route worth buying. Noticed one minor thing, 1Y08 is booked to cross to the fast lines at Ledburn in reality but seems to remain on the slows in this timetable.
I spoke too soon. Looks like this service has an STP amendment to remain in the slows on your reference date of the 30th October to keep it clear of a retimed sleeper service.
this is fantatstic, there are still missing ai only overground though specifically on Willesden Junction Platform 3 and 4 is missing North london Line services and the West London line where both is heading toward Stratford with the North london line toward richmond and the west london line to clapham junction, then the junction between south Hampstead and London euston can be used as ECS for Overground to and from Camden Park
I'll be coming back to work on NLL AI when all the playable stuff is in. It's on my hit list. Just that adds quite a lot of traffic, which results in much longer Sim times. I don't want an extra 30 minutes on every simulation until all the stuff that can cause problems is in and sorted.
make sense, since we can only saw NLL for a very brief moment
Don't think the wires are all there heading towards Camden Road, as they stop short of the portal.
I have class 101, 385 and 465 in you timetable.
Its a normal?
and the 377/4. That's not correct
You have some kind of mod conflict causing that. I have all the DLC's installed, and none of those sub in by default.
https://www.trainsimcommunity.com/mods/c3-train-sim-world/c19-patches/i5216-wcml-350-390-sub-mod i think this mod is causing it.
same problem but i dont have these other mods installed...
You have some kind of mod installed that messes with the substitution. This simply doesn't happen in the vanilla game, it isn't possible.
The 805 crashes scenario planner? Either that or the 390 Progress
its the 805
Nope, its both of them
Just a glitch report: The doors on the 805 won't lock when terminating at Euston. They will shut, just not lock
just done a run with the 805 and not disapointed in this mod along with the EP. However i did notice the was no passenger ai at any of the stations and my train had a handful of ai in fisrt class only, Was the 8.40 timetable i believe. Not sure if its this or the EP that cuased no Ai on platforms. I also have both these paks installed. other wise fantastic work really makes the wcml feel alive now
Apart from 1H21 derailing at load, everything seems great so far.
how long did it take you to simulate this timetable ?, the my ECML timetable took me 2½ hours everytime i simulated it and that was only 570 services!
This is taking me about 70 minutes to simulate currently. I've got a 7800x3D and 64 GB of RAM though.
How did you manage to install a station directory?, isn't this part of the cooked route blueprint asset????
I tried to create a new list for ECML, but as it's cooked, it's un-editable, can you explain how you can upload an cooked asset, thanks?
for some reason the class 805 doesnt have TOPs numbers?
Work of art, really fantastic - thank you!
When I spawned on foot at Euston at 15:35, I had 710 spawned in the buffer at platform 9. Next service it does is 2D90, don't know which it arrives as.
My computer might hate it but I love this mod!
Hey there, Every 390 service that i do into euston i get stuck on it saying lock doors and then im unable to complete the service.
Fantastic mod! Thank you very much, it makes so much fun! Greets
Great mod, but the absence of passengers buzzing around other stations is close to making this mod a deal breaker. I hope a solution for that is in the works, because it would be a shame if nothing is done about the passengers.
That's a core issue with the game. Not something we can change ourselves. You can mitigate it by doing some .ini changes.
Oh. If only I knew how. Still a great mod, though.
try ts2.passenger.DensityScaleNew=2.5
default is 2.0. Might cause your PC to blow up. Depends on your specs. Don't blame me if it burns your house down.
Oh, so that's the reason why I've literally seen zero passengers on all the other stations! I was wondering what's wrong with all the platforms being completely empty... :/
Hey Fawx, great mod! Thank you fo sharing this!
I have a question though: The stopping indicators (HUD) for the Overground trains are no longer connected to the Overground stopping markers. Rather they align with the original DTG stopping markers since the recent update (Tested this on 3 runs both rom Watford to Euston and vice versa). Is that something you can have a look at?
Cheers, and thanks again
Yeah I've changed these in preparation for a future patch. They'll have proper stop makers in the future without needing to do the manual stop points.
Hiya,
I have been enjoying this new splash of life to the west coast mainline, however, I have been wondering why the 377s only go as far as Watford, when in reality, they go all the way to Milton Keynes. I was wondering if there were any plans to add the southern services all the way to MK? If there are, when can we excpect to see them added to this mod?
I can answer this. Southern no longer go to Milton Keynes. They terminate at Watford
They haven't gone all the way to Milton Keynes for a while. This is the real life Southern 377 calling pattern currently.
Ok, thanks for responding to my question!
Can you have a look at the Euston - St Albans Abbey service.
Works as AI, but if you try to drive it, either from selecting it from the timetable, or spawn on foot, it won't take power.
That's a bug with the 350 unfortunately. The gangway doors don't shut when it uncouples. You need to manually shut the gangway doors for it to take power.
In the future - would it be possible to add the 1938 Stock to the timetable for seasonal excursion trips on the LU portion of the route between Queens Park and Harrow & Wealdstone?
If I can find a space to slot it in, I definitely will yes. Would love it for a railtour.
Service 2C36 is held at a red when approaching Harrow and Wealdstone due to a 710 being stuck in the platform behind a green signal. On the opposite platform, a 710 is stuck behind two Bakerloo Line trains; one in the siding and one stuck behind it. I can imagine H&W to be a bit of a headache. Ive also been stuck behind trains that are "off path" on the mainline where the AI train is sat at a Green signal.
Hey, would you ever do one of these for BCC route? Now we have the pendos and 350s they could be used on the BCC route since its part of the WCML in parts especially BNS, would be nice to see BNS come alive like how it is in real life instead of feeling empty all the time. Either way thank you for this, used with the enhancement pack it really makes a huge difference to WCML south.
Bug report : I was doing service 2D65 (Overground) and arrived at Harrow & Wealstone, I saw two Barkeloo stuck (as you can see in my screenshot, one passing the signal and blocking the other from getting out of the siding)
And the 710 to Euston don't leave, I don't know why
Arret Mauvais Chemin (fr) = stop wrong way (eng)
well that Over the Sharp is Fully Released so that mean you doing to update this mod?
When I downloaded and copied it to the DTG folder updated timetable, class 710 was lost in the menu, and class 66 was added. To make matters worse, I can't load the route. I have a Crash. This is what appears:
LoginId:474fa38b427c2aef77a6d3ba14c55a23
EpicAccountId:
LowLevelFatalError [File:Unknown] [Line: 3194] Could not find SuperStruct RVM_SEH_DB_Class66__C to create RVM_GBRf_Class66_Circle_C
If I had kept the previous version of the timetable, it might have worked on the new updated, just released WCML South EP. Now I can't start the game anymore.
Probably due to the freight services being added. I think you need SEHS and the RHTT pack as a requirement. Try and use the recycle bin to revert to an older version.
Now I tried everything by deleting and restoring files to the DLC folder and I found that the problem was with the files !TSW5_WCML_350_EP.pak from the WCML South EP package and !TSW5_WCML_350_EP.pak from the WCML LNR Class 350-1 Full Branding Pack with PIS improvements package. I also noticed that class 710 was missing, and I found that the problem was in the Timetable package for WCML. When I deleted the Timetable files from the DLC folder, class 710 appeared in the menu, but with the Timetable package it is not there. I really don't know what the problem is, it worked until today when I downloaded the updated WCML South and WCML Timetable packages ...
i note, that I have installed all the required DLCs for the WCML EP pack..I just don't have Blackpool Branches..
The crash is due to me not having layer requirements setup properly on one layer, I'm simulating a new version currently to fix that.
I'm not sure why the 710 would disappear though, I'm using the default formations for it.
I don't know... I have all the necessary DLCs now, but still the class 710 doesn't appear in the menu and on the route. All trains are there except class 710.
You must have another mod conflicting then.
This timetable uses the 710 formations included with the route, and nothing else. They are showing up for other people.
For me, the class 66 appears in the VCML Soith menu instead of the class 710. I see from the picture on this page, up at the beginning, that there is no class 66, but there is a ,710 ...
Do you know what mod it could be that I'm missing?
I downloaded this Timetables file, but still no class 710 ... I thought the situation would improve after downloading and installing i.e. copying to DLC.
These are the DLCs I have:
!!!JetWash-TSW4-BakerlooPassengerLighting.pak
!!1972TSSoundMod27
!!BescotJetwash-TSW5-GroundfoliageEP_legacyroutes
!!Class700SoundMod17
!!DesiroUKSoundMod3
!!UKContentBallastEnhancementPack
!Class390SoundMod6
!Class710SoundMod3
!Class801SoundMod3
!EMK_CL350Patch
!EMK_CL377Weathering
!EMK_SignagePatch
!JetWash-TSW5-New Rain Wind and Thunder Sounds
!LondonMidland-TSW5ImprovedSignalVisuals
!TSWMod_Spacey_BetterSnow_Light
AutoAnnouncer.pak
CHR_Class377
Fawx_TT_WCML
Fawx_TT_WCML_StationDirectory
Laika-Freightliner-Class66
RB_GBRF_66
RB-TSW5-AWC_Class390Skins
RB-TSW5-AWC_Class805
RB-TSW5-Class350_Eurovision
RB-TSW5-LNR_Class150
RB-TSW5-NR_NewMeasurementTrain
RB-TSW5-WCMLS-EP_Part1
RB-TSW5-WCMLS-EP_Part2
RB-TSW5-WCMLS-EP_Part3
RB-TSW5-WCMLS-EP_Part4
TS2Prototype-WindowsNoEditor-BRClass380
TS2Prototype-WindowsNoEditor-BRClass390
TS2Prototype-WindowsNoEditor-BRClass700
TS2Prototype-WindowsNoEditor-CrossCityLine
TS2Prototype-WindowsNoEditor-EastCoastMainline
TS2Prototype-WindowsNoEditor-EastCoastway
TS2Prototype-WindowsNoEditor-ECWClass313
TS2Prototype-WindowsNoEditor-EdinburghGlasgow
TS2Prototype-WindowsNoEditor-EdinburghGlasgow_FreightPack
TS2Prototype-WindowsNoEditor-GlasgowCathcart
TS2Prototype-WindowsNoEditor-GoblinLine
TS2Prototype-WindowsNoEditor-GreatWesternBlue
TS2Prototype-WindowsNoEditor-LondonBrighton
TS2Prototype-WindowsNoEditor-LondonFaversham
TS2Prototype-WindowsNoEditor-LUBakerlooLine
TS2Prototype-WindowsNoEditor-NewJourneysSoutheasternHighspeed
TS2Prototype-WindowsNoEditor-PrestonBlackpool
TS2Prototype-WindowsNoEditor-SEH_DB_Class66
TS2Prototype-WindowsNoEditor-TSW2PaddingtonReading
TS2Prototype-WindowsNoEditor-WCMLSouth
The screenshot at the top is out of date now, the latest version contains the 66.
You can check out the DLCs from the list, so I would be grateful if you could tell me what else is missing from of themods.
You have the required DLC, the 710 only requires Goblin and WCML.
Remove ALL mods other than the TT mod, and check.
This TT doesn't touch the 710 at all, I use the default formations included with the route, so if it's not showing up it's a conflict with some other mod.
I don't know what to do... What do you mean, delete all mods except TT? TT only has this patch for Timetable... I can only check mod by mod, to see which mod fixes the problem i.e. conflicts with class 710, but that's really annoying... or wait for a new update.
Exactly what I said. Remove all of your mods, every single one. Then just put the TT file in your folder. The 710 should show up.
The 710 is showing up for me, and everyone else that owns Goblin, so if you have Goblin, and it's not showing up, you have another mod causing an issue.
Hiya,
I'm loving the mod by the way, but the guard mode doesn't work on the 390. Every time it says to buzz the driver, I press the button on the guard panel twice, yet nothing happens. Please tell me if this is a bug or if I am doing something wrong.
I'm not sure the 390 is actually properly setup for guard mode yet by DTG, so it might be that.
Just wondering if there will be a chance if the Avanti 807's will be layered
This mode is fantastic. Thank you so much!
I had a problem with the service:
‘2T12 Tring to London Euston’
Before Watford Junction station (arrival 08:37:00) a train mentioned on the map as an ‘error’ was occupying the platform. I had to remove it via the map view and was able to continue.
Had the same problem on the 710 I can't remember which service it was but I removed the first train and then there was a second one stuck a few stations after too. I know it was an early morning service.
These stop off path errors are a massive pain, if people can get me the service name of the one you are playing when you see a train stopped off path, I can look at fixing it.
They don't show up in the simulation, only when players play. So I'm sure there are several, and they are hard to fix some times.
Hi Fawx, have replicated using service 2C03 at 05:58 using Class 710/2, I believe this was the service I was talking about in my prior comment. The AI service is sitting at Harrow and Wealdstone Platform 2. The AI service name is 2C02 and it's status is "Stop off path".
When this happens to me, for example, several times at Tring station, I always go to the "Remove Path" option and the train starts. Of course, this only helps if you notice in time that the train has stopped before the signal, for example, or on the platform itself. When trains pile up, it is difficult to solve the problem with this option.
Hi, will this timetable show up as a seperate timetable to the dtg original or will it replace it?
Seperate.
I now have the latest version of tsw 5 and everything works fine for WCML South. I have a question, is there a plan to update this timetable for the WCMLS route? The new timetable is already valid throughout Europe for 2024/2025. I compare the departures from https://www.thetrainline.com/live and I haven't noticed any changes yet. Are there any changes to the timetable on WCML at all?
Great mod by the way, keep up the good work. FAO 2B53 appears to get stuck at a red light at Leighton Buzzard station TK5203 and light before appears to be green TK5199 causing a back up of trains. Apologies if you are already aware. Cheers
Good job !
Class 87 services are crashing the sim for me currently?
EDIT: Seems all services are crashing since an update. Not sure if any of the TT is currently useable?
EDIT 2: If you are reading with same issue, was resolved by also updating the requirements, WCML enhancement etc. Lots has been updated :)
Did you update any other mods than the Enhancement pack? I still experience CTDs regardless of what train I want to use
I updated the TT from this page and also the Enhancement files, was a few extras to add vs before.
After removing all mods not needed or recommended for this timetable and the enhancements pack I still get CTDs no matter which train I want to drive. Now there is always the error:
'LowLevelFatalError [File:Unknown] [Line: 3194]
Could not find SuperStruct RVM_PBD_LNER_Class801_01_DPTS_C to create RVM_805_DPTS_C'
I don't know exactly what that means other than the game is not able to create the Class 805 from the Class 801 from the ECML DLC, which I own. I installed all the files freshly and still get this error
EDIT: Turns out I had East Coast Main Line not installed for some bizarre reason, now that that DLC is installed everything works fine
When I install it, when i select WCML in the menu, it gives 2 variations of it, but the class 805 etc dont show up just the standard trains in vanilla
What are the times for the 87 CS?
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About this mod
- Created
- 22 Oct 2024
- Updated
- 12 Dec 2024
- Game
- Train Sim World
- Type of content
- Timetable
- Train Sim World compatibility
- Train Sim World 5
- Train Sim World Content
- Avanti West Coast BR Class 390 Pendolino EMU, West Coast Main Line: London Euston - Milton Keynes
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Thaky you. We need install the two pak ?
Ideally yes, but the Station Directory is only needed if you care about better passenger boarding/Spawning at MKC and Euston.
Thanks 👍
I have a problem with the guard mdoe