All North American Routes Time of Day upgrade

Thank you. I didn't notice the departure boards were broken, after looking into it they seem to still be working but just way too dim under the new lighting system (you can check by loading a route at night and shining your flashlight on them). I don't currently think I can fix the display boards sadly, though I would love to get them functional again if possible!

Personally i'm fine with the departure screens not working since they're hopelessly inaccurate, though it would be nice if we could select individual routes for this mod (say have Oakville on the new system, but keep LIRR on the old, or something like that)

Also, would you consider joining the TSC discord? I think some of the modders on there would be interested in this.

I can't seem to find anything broken with the displays on either the GP38-2 or ES44AC on HSC. What locomotive and service did you run?

I can't fix the issue with tunnels sadly. To fix the issue I would need to fully rebake the lighting on the route which I am not set-up to do atm.

Just got that working today. I'll be getting that version up asap!

Early on in testing, I had Sand Patch working with the new TOD4 system. Sadly it was facing an issue that would have the lighting be super bugged out and so for the final version, I elected to just not include it, rather than send out something that visually breaks the route. I'll go back and retry it and see if I can get it working, but at this point in time, it's more of a technical limitation.

Update: after looking into it, I found out what the issue was. I managed to get it patched! I'll get the new file with support for Sand Patch up soon.

All the signal lights work on Sand Patch from my testing. What service did you run to experience that and also do you have any other mods installed that might affect SPG?

The 09:33 Intermodal Service. I have AC4400CW Engine Sound mod and SPG Enhancement Pack mod installed. It could be a mod conflict isn't it?

After looking into it, the SPG Enhancement Pack seems to be causing the issue with the signals. After installing the mod all the signals are still a bit visible but are very dim and almost unreadable.

What route is causing a crash, also which other mods do you have installed? I haven't had any crashes happen but recent game updates might have caused some issues.

I just recently put your mods into the directory and run a route and seem that it kills all the lighting in the station. All of the station lights went completely dark, including in the terminal as well. Can you please look into this and try to get a fix for it soon, thank you

I had this mod installed for some time and did not encounter any crashes on the routes I played. Even the one from trainsimcz that is for all routes, no crashes. It is best if you remove any other lighting mods in case it causes conflict.

There are many things the modder is unable to fix since it is dtg's responsibility to do the rest of the lighting work which they most likely aren't going to do. They have to rebake the lighting, change every single lighting value so all the lights can end up working. So while this mod improves the lighting, you will get many issues such as signals not being lit, pis not working, underground sections being really dark, really dark nights, lights not working, etc. But the modder is unable to fix all of it since the modder does not have access to all the tools dtg uses.

I've been looking into fixing the lighting in stations and tunnel sections. So far no dice. I've changed the intensity values for stations before but they seem to be controlled by something else in the files which I've yet to find. I'm hoping that in the near future I can remerge the packs with a fix to all station/tunnel lighting sections. For now, I recommend only using this mod during the day, if you can look past some of the baking issues of course.

I'll be updating the pack to remove any official TOD4 routes on the 21st (SMH and BPE). I'll also verify that all other routes are still functional.

That's very interesting as BPE has no files edited in ether pak. I also have never experienced this personally. Please double check that you have the most recent version of the mod. If you still are experiencing this issue, tell me your full mod list, any engine.ini tweaks and installed content.

Hi. Yes I can confirm it was due to not having the latest version of the mod installed. As soon as I installed the latest version Boston Sprinter started working normally with all signals operating normally again.

As I said in another comment, this mod makes no changes to any BPE content. Please double check you have the latest version. I downloaded the version of the mod that I uploaded to the site and after installing it on two of my computers I was unable to replecate this issue. If after verifying that you have the latest version installed and still run into the red light issue, please list any other mods you have installed, and engine.ini tweaks you may have and what content you have mounted to the game.

Delete the old version of this mod and re-download it from here. Worked for me. They're the same names but the one you have may be outdated. I originally had the same problem but it was fixed with new version.

This isn't something I can fix and was noted in the mod discription.

The mod you linked adjusts the lighting used by TOD V3, this mod updates the TOD to V4. They're not compatible.

Very good and understood, I thank you for getting back to me and appreciate it.
I was thinking maybe both mods along with the other, that idea went off the rails.

I can't replicate this error. Ensure you're running the latest version and that you have no conflicting mods installed.

I've never tested it in TSW4 so I'm not sure. You're free to try it but I can not currently provide support for it if it doesn't work.

I highly doubt an engine.ini change could break this mod. If you have no other mods installed, it's possible an update to that DLC broke compatibility with this mod. I don't have time currently to look into it sadly, but from your experience have any other routes had this issue when using this mod?

Harlem is the only route that I have that would use this, so there’s no way of testing others. I just reinstalled the game, so maybe I’ll try it again. Thanks!

Without properly porting Sand Patch Grade to TODv4, no. This mod messes up a few major parts of routes, and while I've tried my best to change the colors on routes to fit with the new system, I can only do so much. I hope you can enjoy the mod still.

LIRR and HAR are both listed as having dark tunnels which is not fixable by me. These were like this before the mod was uploaded and not after. The SPG screenshot you took doesn't seem to have any issues.

I do appreciate the reply, and I do understand there are some things modders just can fix, this post was an FYI and just maybe something changed. The SPG screenshot was taken while the Scenario Q249 was loaded, and the only mod loaded was !TSW3Mod_Space_TOD_NA_Upgrade.pak and all lights are off, when the mod was removed all the lights were on, and the same thing happened on HSC. I also deleted any ini file that could have had any effect on the game.

I have several mods you created installed and working well, something DTG changed in their updates caused a fair amount of issues and breaking mods, even some scenarios they broke which are not mod-related at all. I would be willing to redo the test and record every step if that would be of assistance.

This mod works the same as it did on TSW4.

Can you please be more descriptive with your issue to see if I can recreate it? This mod doesn't change anything on CJP and I haven't seen any issues relating to it so it shouldn't be this mod.